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From Portugal, Mar\u00eda Vera Chagas de Souza (a reader of Ballenita si and an activist of the Slow movement, which is a cultural movement that promotes calming the intensity and speed of human activities), sends us this article that we want to share with you. It is an INTERVIEW WITH A TUAREG (nomadic tribe from the Sahara Desert, Africa) conducted by Victor M. Amela to Moussa Ag Assaride (author of the book En el Desierto no hay Atascos)<\/span><\/div>\n

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  • Moussa, how old are you?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n

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    I don't know my age: I was born in the Sahara desert, without papers...! I was born in a Tuareg nomad camp between Timbuktu and Gao, in the north of Mali. I have been a herder of camels, goats, sheep and cows for my father. Today I study Management at the University of Montpellier (France). I am single. I defend the Tuareg shepherds. I am a Muslim, without fanaticism.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n
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    • What a beautiful turban\u2026!<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

      It is a thin cotton fabric: it allows you to cover your face in the desert when the sand rises, and at the same time you can continue to see and breathe through it.<\/span><\/div>\n

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      • It is a beautiful blue\u2026<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

        We Tuareg were called the blue men because the fabric fades a little and our skin takes on a bluish tint\u2026<\/span><\/p>\n

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        • How do they make that intense indigo blue? <\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

          Made from a plant called indigo, mixed with other natural pigments. For the Tuareg, blue is the colour of the world.<\/span><\/p>\n

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          • Because?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

            It is the dominant color: that of the sky, the roof of our house.<\/span><\/p>\n

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            • Who are the Tuareg?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

              Tuareg means "abandoned", because we are an old nomadic people of the desert, solitary, proud: "Lords of the Desert" they call us. Our ethnic group is Amazigh (Berber), and our alphabet is Tifinagh.<\/span><\/p>\n

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              • How many are there?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                There are about three million of them, and most of them are still nomads. But the population is decreasing\u2026 \u201cA village needs to disappear for us to know that it existed!\u201d a wise man once said: \u201cI am fighting to preserve this village.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

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                • What do they do?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                  We herd flocks of camels, goats, lambs, cows and donkeys in a realm of infinity and silence\u2026<\/span>
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                  • Is the desert really that quiet?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                    If you are alone in that silence, you hear the beating of your own heart. There is no better place to find yourself.<\/span><\/p>\n

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                    • What memories of your childhood in the desert do you remember most vividly?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                      I wake up with the sun. There are my father's goats. They give us milk and meat, we take them to where there is water and grass... That's what my great-grandfather did, and my grandfather, and my father... And me. There was nothing else in the world but that, and I was very happy in it!<\/span><\/p>\n

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                      • Yes? It doesn't sound very stimulating...<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                        A lot. At 7 years old you are already allowed to leave the camp, and they teach you the important things: to sniff the air, to listen, to sharpen your eyesight, to orient yourself by the sun and the stars\u2026 And to let yourself be led by the camel, if you get lost: it will take you to where there is water.<\/span><\/p>\n

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                        • Knowing that is valuable, no doubt\u2026<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                          -Everything there is simple and profound. There are very few things, and each one has enormous value!<\/span><\/p>\n

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                          • So this world and that one are very different, right?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                            There, every little thing brings happiness. Every touch is valuable. We feel enormous joy from the simple fact of touching each other, of being together! There, no one dreams of becoming, because everyone already is!<\/span><\/p>\n

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                            • What shocked you the most on your first trip to Europe?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n
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                              I saw people running through the airport... In the desert you only run if there's a sandstorm! I was scared, of course...<\/span><\/p>\n
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                              • They were just going to get the suitcases, ha, ha\u2026<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n

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                                Yes, that was it. I also saw posters of naked girls: why this lack of respect towards women?, I asked myself\u2026 Later, at the Ibis hotel, I saw the first tap of my life: I saw the water running\u2026 and I felt like crying.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n
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                                • What abundance, what waste, right?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n

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                                  Every day of my life had been about looking for water! When I see the ornamental fountains here and there and the water going to waste, I still feel such immense pain inside\u2026<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n
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                                  • As much as that?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                                    Yes. In the early 90s there was a big drought, animals died, we got sick\u2026 I was about twelve years old, and my mother died\u2026 She was everything to me! She told me stories and taught me to tell them well. She taught me to be myself.<\/span>
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                                    • What happened to your family?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n

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                                      I convinced my father to let me go to school. Almost every day I walked fifteen kilometers. Until the teacher let me sleep in a bed, and a lady gave me food as she passed by her house\u2026 I understood: my mother was helping me\u2026<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n

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                                      • Where did this passion for school come from?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n

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                                        A couple of years earlier, the Paris-Dakar rally had passed through the camp, and a journalist had dropped a book from her backpack. I picked it up and gave it to her. She gave it to me and told me about that book: The Little Prince. And I promised myself that one day I would be able to read it\u2026<\/span><\/div>\n

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                                        • And he succeeded.<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n

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                                          Yes. And that's how I got a scholarship to study in France.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n
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                                          • A Tuareg at university...!<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n

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                                            Ah, what I miss most here is camel milk\u2026 And the wood fire. And walking barefoot on the warm sand. And the stars: we look at them there every night, and each star is different from another, just as each goat is different\u2026 Here, at night, they watch TV.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n
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                                            • Yes\u2026 What do you think is the worst thing about here?<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                                              They have everything, but it's not enough. They complain. They spend their lives complaining! They chain themselves to a bench for life, and there is a desire to possess, frenzy, hurry... In the desert there are no traffic jams, and do you know why? Because there nobody wants to overtake anyone else!<\/span><\/p>\n

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                                              • Tell me about a moment of intense happiness in your distant desert.<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n

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                                                It is every day, two hours before sunset: The heat goes down, and the cold has not arrived, and men and animals slowly return to camp and their profiles are outlined against a pink, blue, red, yellow, green sky...<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n
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                                                • Fascinating, of course\u2026<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                                                  It is a magical moment\u2026 We all go into the shop and boil tea. Sitting in silence, we listen to the boiling\u2026 Calmness invades us all: our heartbeats are in time with the pot-pot of the boil\u2026<\/span><\/p>\n

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                                                  • What peace\u2026<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                                                    Here is a clock, there is time.<\/span><\/span>.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n

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